Valea Silpha
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Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:24:00 -
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The phantasm is indeed utter junk. Personally, I'd like it to get an optimal bonus, thus making it a turbo-zealot for sniping.
I really hate that the phantasm does almost identical to my beam zealot with pulses. 500 damage is AWESOME at 30km (even better when you can push out to 100km). At 7.5km ... its kinda pathetic. Sure you CAN get decent range with scorch, but why bother compared to a beam-zealot ?
Every time I try and come up with a decent fit I end up coming out with something the plenty of stuff already does.
If you want to go in close then you can kiss your ass goodbye. You are no-where near fast or durable enough to do this (deimos syndrome). On the other hand you can't get good range with beams either. Leave at home.
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Valea Silpha
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Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.05.30 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Valea Silpha on 30/05/2010 16:44:07
 Originally by: Admiral Pelleon
Considering I fly this thing more or less everyday, let me elaborate on what the solution should be. It does decent scorch damage in the point-zone of 20-25km, and has the two utility highs for whatever. However, there is no grid remaining after the required MWD/booster/heavy pulse/extender to fit anything legitimate in those two slots, no way to get even a single medium neut in there. The big problem is that it lacks the speed to remain in point range but out of web/scram range, and is outclassed in every way in this range area by the cynabal. Another issue is that IT IS MISSING A SLOT. WTF CCP.
My solution:
add 10m3 drone bandwidth/bay for a full set of light drones.
add a lowslot (it's missing one, you know it, I know it, CCP knows it)
either increase shield HP to increase survivability in the point-zone, or significantly increase speed or agility to have better control over the range in an engagement
give it enough extra fitting to actually use the two high slots
As it stands, it makes a decent midrange DPS ship but it lacks the something special that should set it apart from a Zealot. The tracking bonus is very nice, I have no issues with the range we're made to engage in, but the ship lacks power in its 'role'.
I endorse this solution.
3x HS and the extra drone bandwidth would take it to around 500 dps at point range (just under with warriors, just over with hobgobs), which is on par with a FMP zealot. The zealot gets more range with scorch, but the phantasm gets better tracking, which is fair IMHO.
The drones and fitting for neuts would definitely make the phantasm stand out against similar sized targets. Yes, you'd have to get in close for the neuts, but the combination of 600ish dps with INMF and creditable neuting power would make it pretty fearsome inside its engagement range. Neuts are a good way to balance this I think, since they sure do give an edge above similar ships.
Extra EHP, speed and agility completes the package. With all of that, you could happily go with scram and web and MELT the hell out of similarly sized and EHPed targets.
You sir, get a gold star. 
Edit - Liang posted while I was typing.
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Edited by: Liang Nuren on 30/05/2010 16:40:41
I would prefer +10 m^3 drone bay and +1 low slot and +1 turret slot.
-Liang
Ed: What, it'd be better than a Zealot then? REALLY? OHLYSIHT!
That too would work fine for me. Basically it needs more fitting and a more dps. However you go about it, thats fine by me. The extra turret is more reliable, but less flexable.
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